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		<title>Comment on Euro versus Drachma: A Televised Debate by Bibi</title>
		<link>http://GreekEconomistsforReform.com/general/euro-versus-drachma-a-televised-debate/#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>Bibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your entire essay was a puke against the average Greek u should be ashamed of..
corruption? ask Germany about that..
German governments were bribing the Greek ex governments of PASOK to enter the eurozone although they were very well aware of the fact that Greece wasnt ready to enter..(so were some other states of the south..ex.Portugal)
Germany did that to avoid paying up the WW2 compensations they owe to Greece and are estimated up to 575 billion dollars...the German historian of economy Albrecht Ritschl  stated that if Germany is ever forced to pay its debt to Greece it will go bankruot immediately..Commiting crimes against humanity , murdering babies in their carriages and exterminating entire villages are supposed to be facts that should be forgotten according to u? 

Finally, me as a honest Greek citizen who pays her taxes and hates anarchy and acts of violence I WANT GREECE OUT OF THE EUROZONE and in for the drachma again...if Greece wont be given the ability to print its own currency , it will never escape the crisis ...IMF and the european central bank know this yet they go on feeding Greece with loans...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your entire essay was a puke against the average Greek u should be ashamed of..<br />
corruption? ask Germany about that..<br />
German governments were bribing the Greek ex governments of PASOK to enter the eurozone although they were very well aware of the fact that Greece wasnt ready to enter..(so were some other states of the south..ex.Portugal)<br />
Germany did that to avoid paying up the WW2 compensations they owe to Greece and are estimated up to 575 billion dollars&#8230;the German historian of economy Albrecht Ritschl  stated that if Germany is ever forced to pay its debt to Greece it will go bankruot immediately..Commiting crimes against humanity , murdering babies in their carriages and exterminating entire villages are supposed to be facts that should be forgotten according to u? </p>
<p>Finally, me as a honest Greek citizen who pays her taxes and hates anarchy and acts of violence I WANT GREECE OUT OF THE EUROZONE and in for the drachma again&#8230;if Greece wont be given the ability to print its own currency , it will never escape the crisis &#8230;IMF and the european central bank know this yet they go on feeding Greece with loans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The PSI’s enigma&#8212;and a possible solution by Divine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time for Ireland and the other ceutnrios to default. Look at Iceland, with a balance sheet and bond spreads better than Ireland. And who are these bond vigilantes anyway? I say that mainstream people the world over stand up to them.What do you say to that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for Ireland and the other ceutnrios to default. Look at Iceland, with a balance sheet and bond spreads better than Ireland. And who are these bond vigilantes anyway? I say that mainstream people the world over stand up to them.What do you say to that?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Great Depression for Greece? by Sabina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drystone, I agree 100% with you.  Maybe some Greek naval gnzaig would be good at this time instead of blaming everyone else for our troubles.  And, yes, Greek-Americans (not all of us) are some of the worst Greece apologists.  Sure, Greece is great, but don&#8217;t gloss over the negative either.  It just makes us look foolish to the foreigners who are providing the money we desperately need to keep our way of life going.  As my father always said, &#8220;Socialism is great, until you run out of someone else&#8217;s money&#8221;&#8230;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drystone, I agree 100% with you.  Maybe some Greek naval gnzaig would be good at this time instead of blaming everyone else for our troubles.  And, yes, Greek-Americans (not all of us) are some of the worst Greece apologists.  Sure, Greece is great, but don&#8217;t gloss over the negative either.  It just makes us look foolish to the foreigners who are providing the money we desperately need to keep our way of life going.  As my father always said, &#8220;Socialism is great, until you run out of someone else&#8217;s money&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greek wages and international competitiveness by Michael Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many sacrifices are called for and many have been agreed to but far fewer effectively implemented. Less talk - more action please.
Also, Greece should accept external assistance from other Euro zone states to intensively work on improving / streamlining public administration and tax compliance. The people who are responsible for these activities now are obviously incompetent and their methods ineffective. Stop waisting time - get rid of them, replace them with people from countries who know what they are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many sacrifices are called for and many have been agreed to but far fewer effectively implemented. Less talk &#8211; more action please.<br />
Also, Greece should accept external assistance from other Euro zone states to intensively work on improving / streamlining public administration and tax compliance. The people who are responsible for these activities now are obviously incompetent and their methods ineffective. Stop waisting time &#8211; get rid of them, replace them with people from countries who know what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two priorities for return to growth and prosperity by Prof John Kontos (Athens University)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prof John Kontos (Athens University)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear economists (almost) colleagues

I read in your comments many tautologies.
E.g. corruption, lazyness , burocracy etc are bad and development is good.

I saw however no concrete proposals for economically promising fields of activity for Greece to concentrate on. If you give me room I can propose a  few new technology fields further than the &quot;rising stars&quot; proposed in the McKinsey report and you may  comment using your economics expertise.

Ioannis Kontos

Emeritus professor of Artificial Intelligence
Athens University</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear economists (almost) colleagues</p>
<p>I read in your comments many tautologies.<br />
E.g. corruption, lazyness , burocracy etc are bad and development is good.</p>
<p>I saw however no concrete proposals for economically promising fields of activity for Greece to concentrate on. If you give me room I can propose a  few new technology fields further than the &#8220;rising stars&#8221; proposed in the McKinsey report and you may  comment using your economics expertise.</p>
<p>Ioannis Kontos</p>
<p>Emeritus professor of Artificial Intelligence<br />
Athens University</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greek Economists for Reform comment on Greece&#8217;s priorities for 2012 by Ciikunii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciikunii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Papadopoulos,We acrpepiate your concerns and hope you will agree with us that substance matters more than labels. We think that the country is in immediate need of deep reforms. The important questions are what reforms, when and how. Costas Azariadis and Yannis Ioannides</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Papadopoulos,We acrpepiate your concerns and hope you will agree with us that substance matters more than labels. We think that the country is in immediate need of deep reforms. The important questions are what reforms, when and how. Costas Azariadis and Yannis Ioannides</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Euro or not to Euro? by Sanima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Greek CDS ctrtnacos that were sold in December of 2009 by the Hellenic Postbank. Coupled with the firm&#039;s prompt denial, I believe it is only fair for us to now ask the question of why no evidence has been presented. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Greek CDS ctrtnacos that were sold in December of 2009 by the Hellenic Postbank. Coupled with the firm&#039;s prompt denial, I believe it is only fair for us to now ask the question of why no evidence has been presented. I [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two priorities for return to growth and prosperity by Syed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are ttlaloy right.The pampered, overpaidl, secure workers are to blame.They must be transformed into tireless, industry soldiers &#8211; and let those that cannot adapt starve!Let us do away with the commie values of guaranteed pay, leaves and 8-hours a day and protections of childhood and motherhood.The worker should devote all his or her waking hours for fulfilling the vision of the creative employer. The worker must be expendable, a living sacrifice to the vision and creativity of the employer. Let him or her be the living, breathing tool of the employer, let him suffice himself or herself to the bare necessities of life and even less.Let the Greek miracle happen, crush the looting classes into a disciplined workforce, let us do away with the commie ideal of society in 2012.Greed is good! Altruism is bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are ttlaloy right.The pampered, overpaidl, secure workers are to blame.They must be transformed into tireless, industry soldiers &#8211; and let those that cannot adapt starve!Let us do away with the commie values of guaranteed pay, leaves and 8-hours a day and protections of childhood and motherhood.The worker should devote all his or her waking hours for fulfilling the vision of the creative employer. The worker must be expendable, a living sacrifice to the vision and creativity of the employer. Let him or her be the living, breathing tool of the employer, let him suffice himself or herself to the bare necessities of life and even less.Let the Greek miracle happen, crush the looting classes into a disciplined workforce, let us do away with the commie ideal of society in 2012.Greed is good! Altruism is bad!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The PSI’s enigma&#8212;and a possible solution by Demetriou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetriou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we try to think outside of the box.
an investment fund that would be primarily funded from Greeks in diaspora and in mainland,  run from a committee that are Greeks, shareholders, and above all expert in directing funds in productive sectors of the economy may be a good idea.
The investment fund would have many advantages over the greek diaspora bond that has been suggested and the role of IMF and any other foreign lenders. It would also allow the committee to control the Greek government easier and with no fear from the Greeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we try to think outside of the box.<br />
an investment fund that would be primarily funded from Greeks in diaspora and in mainland,  run from a committee that are Greeks, shareholders, and above all expert in directing funds in productive sectors of the economy may be a good idea.<br />
The investment fund would have many advantages over the greek diaspora bond that has been suggested and the role of IMF and any other foreign lenders. It would also allow the committee to control the Greek government easier and with no fear from the Greeks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Talk at the Economist conference: &#8220;Getting Greece back on track: how?&#8221; by MUDr. Vassaras Alexandros</title>
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		<dc:creator>MUDr. Vassaras Alexandros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding of the situation, in the depth that is visible to me, would be reflected by those proposals that explain:  how a person, or a group of citizens, or a group of financial entities can accept, and tolerate the mentality evoution that is following the acceptance of, a &quot;modern&quot; way of perceiving personal, family, company and state economy. &quot;Financial Intelligence&quot; is a term not known to the common citizens of Greece, therefore their political function is not bringing any results for many years already. The Social aspect of the human character has been serving for many years the politicians, to proceed in a citizen-mentality-building, which has no understanding for Finances. Nobody explained to Greeks ever !!! what is a liability and what is an asset !?! Being a businessman in Greece is not the same as in other countries of EU... Businessman in Greece is to be a mediator between the producer and the consumer ! The chain of production is not perceived by the people that want to do business as a chain that needs to have sustainability on all levels, and that &quot;building a business&quot; is actually &quot;building a brotherhood&quot; between the &#039;links&#039; of the chain. The mediator will push the other &#039;links&#039; to lower the prices in such low levels that the sustainability of the other &#039;links&#039; is lost. The producer will be paid to throw his product in the garbage or close the production unit, the mediator will search for the next victim and the consumer will always pay more than he should for products that finally will be &quot;delicatessen&quot; quality or imported by a mediator... That&#039;s not business , that is easy-come money from provisions and opportunistic sales!!! after some point that system fails in all each levels, all the &quot;links&quot; are dead, with the final death of the mediator himself... Therefore &quot;open market&quot; and &quot;liberated economy&quot; are terms that are not understood by Greeks in the sense that would bring a continuous positive outcome for the &quot;links&quot; of a business chain... and that should be finally explained. Politicians are not &quot;philosophers&quot; for the people anymore - they should be !!!
Politicians are not &quot;rhetoricians&quot; for the people anymore - they should be !!!
Politicians ARE &quot;sophists&quot;, because that&#039;s the job description -to convince at all costs !! Without &quot;financial intelligence&quot;, a person cannot judge the sayings of a &quot;sophist politician&quot;!!
Without &quot;financial intelligence&quot;, a person cannot see that his social connection to politician will actually &quot;kill&quot; him and his family or his &quot;business&quot;...
This is my contribution to this discussion... I am confident that the focus is in the correct direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of the situation, in the depth that is visible to me, would be reflected by those proposals that explain:  how a person, or a group of citizens, or a group of financial entities can accept, and tolerate the mentality evoution that is following the acceptance of, a &#8220;modern&#8221; way of perceiving personal, family, company and state economy. &#8220;Financial Intelligence&#8221; is a term not known to the common citizens of Greece, therefore their political function is not bringing any results for many years already. The Social aspect of the human character has been serving for many years the politicians, to proceed in a citizen-mentality-building, which has no understanding for Finances. Nobody explained to Greeks ever !!! what is a liability and what is an asset !?! Being a businessman in Greece is not the same as in other countries of EU&#8230; Businessman in Greece is to be a mediator between the producer and the consumer ! The chain of production is not perceived by the people that want to do business as a chain that needs to have sustainability on all levels, and that &#8220;building a business&#8221; is actually &#8220;building a brotherhood&#8221; between the &#8216;links&#8217; of the chain. The mediator will push the other &#8216;links&#8217; to lower the prices in such low levels that the sustainability of the other &#8216;links&#8217; is lost. The producer will be paid to throw his product in the garbage or close the production unit, the mediator will search for the next victim and the consumer will always pay more than he should for products that finally will be &#8220;delicatessen&#8221; quality or imported by a mediator&#8230; That&#8217;s not business , that is easy-come money from provisions and opportunistic sales!!! after some point that system fails in all each levels, all the &#8220;links&#8221; are dead, with the final death of the mediator himself&#8230; Therefore &#8220;open market&#8221; and &#8220;liberated economy&#8221; are terms that are not understood by Greeks in the sense that would bring a continuous positive outcome for the &#8220;links&#8221; of a business chain&#8230; and that should be finally explained. Politicians are not &#8220;philosophers&#8221; for the people anymore &#8211; they should be !!!<br />
Politicians are not &#8220;rhetoricians&#8221; for the people anymore &#8211; they should be !!!<br />
Politicians ARE &#8220;sophists&#8221;, because that&#8217;s the job description -to convince at all costs !! Without &#8220;financial intelligence&#8221;, a person cannot judge the sayings of a &#8220;sophist politician&#8221;!!<br />
Without &#8220;financial intelligence&#8221;, a person cannot see that his social connection to politician will actually &#8220;kill&#8221; him and his family or his &#8220;business&#8221;&#8230;<br />
This is my contribution to this discussion&#8230; I am confident that the focus is in the correct direction.</p>
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